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Sasuke hasnt even killed that many people suzy, and the ones he did were people you hated like Danzo. But Sasuke technically took out 3 akatsuki members counting Orochimaru and Danzo. The only people he outright murdered were the nameless/faceless samurai during the kage summit. He actually hasn't done all that bad.
Sasuke coming back only really became a problem when he helped the akatsuki get bee, and when he attacked the summit. He didn't really get bee but that's not from lack of trying, and yeah he was only there for danzo but he was basically Hokage at the time and that would be killing a village leader, can't forget his plan to destroy the village
Only took 2 Uchihas to do all this... Honestly a good thing its only them cause I bet most would have turned on us with how much "pain" and "despair" theyve put us through. I know some would've helped, mmmaaaaaybe. But again, only took 2 to do all this soooo yeahhh i wouldnt chance it
Sasuke hasnt gotten thousands of people killed....... For one person....... Fuck Obito!!!! Madara lost his brothers and sasuke lost his whole family and clan.....Obito just said fuck this after ONE GIRL, who didnt even like him like that!!!! Honestly, just pitiful.
Obito didn't do all this just because of rin, when Rin died, obito realized that everything madara and the zetsu's told him was true and using the infinite tsukoyomi to create a peaceful world was so everyone wouldn't have to continue to live in such a hellish world, think about it, obito has the rinnegan meaning if he really did do all of this for rin, then why not use the Rinne rebirth jutsu to bring her back to life?
Exactly, Rin dying was just the start, what caused him to become like this was seeing how cruel the world was, the one that took his parents when he was a baby, the one that caused Rin to die at the hands of someone she loved, the one that was constantly in war, etc.
Obito is someone who lost all hope.
Obito is someone who lost all hope.
People who resort to this argument prove to be either childish or emotionally obtuse, only a grave lack of empathy as a person could lead someone to say that a change in someone's heart is worthless because it was "just for one person". It's revolting.
Affections hold different weight depending on the circumstances and how many people you had from the start. If someone loses more it also means that such person had more to begin with. Look at Madara, he may have grieved for all the lost brothers but the one loss that truly changed him was his last REMAINING brother, because once he lost him there was no one left. Same argument for Sasuke, he was a spoiled child with tons of people loving him and simply lost everything and remained alone in one swoop.
The idea that this show has repeatedly tried to point out is that the real tragedy is not losing people, the real tragedy is solitude, having no one left to help you sustain the burden of those losses. And the Uchiha, due to their natural predisposition towards hatred, ended up further isolating themselves when they felt they had nothing left but hatred and vengeance in their lives: Madara lost hope in the village and its purpose, pursuing a different path while turning his back towards the friend who spared his life, Sasuke grew obsessed over vengeance and for which ended up being manipulated by a lot of people along the way, not to mention costantly ignoring or threatening the two people who would have done anything to have him back.
Obito? Obito never knew his parents and was a black sheep among the Uchiha, likely an embarassament since he was the opposite of a prodigy, he knew solitude FROM THE START (as pointed out by Naruto himself) and found in Rin the only person who gave two shits about him and had genuine faith towards his dream of becoming Hokage, never failing in giving him support. She was the world to him. So how can someone even dare to claim that it was just "one person"? Sure, Obito could have returned to the village, but by witnessing the death of Rin at the hands of the one friend who promised to protect her (regardless of the circumstances) with their master Minato assigned to some other mission while a similar tragedy occurred, stripped Obito of his purpose much like Madara was stripped of his, which in Obito's case was protecting his comrades no matter what. And knowing well the feeling, Madara knew how to manipulate him to set Obito on a similar path of self-imposed isolation, since he described the world was a miserable place unworthy of salvation to the kid, something he felt tangible prove of that in one single, hope shattering moment.
Affections hold different weight depending on the circumstances and how many people you had from the start. If someone loses more it also means that such person had more to begin with. Look at Madara, he may have grieved for all the lost brothers but the one loss that truly changed him was his last REMAINING brother, because once he lost him there was no one left. Same argument for Sasuke, he was a spoiled child with tons of people loving him and simply lost everything and remained alone in one swoop.
The idea that this show has repeatedly tried to point out is that the real tragedy is not losing people, the real tragedy is solitude, having no one left to help you sustain the burden of those losses. And the Uchiha, due to their natural predisposition towards hatred, ended up further isolating themselves when they felt they had nothing left but hatred and vengeance in their lives: Madara lost hope in the village and its purpose, pursuing a different path while turning his back towards the friend who spared his life, Sasuke grew obsessed over vengeance and for which ended up being manipulated by a lot of people along the way, not to mention costantly ignoring or threatening the two people who would have done anything to have him back.
Obito? Obito never knew his parents and was a black sheep among the Uchiha, likely an embarassament since he was the opposite of a prodigy, he knew solitude FROM THE START (as pointed out by Naruto himself) and found in Rin the only person who gave two shits about him and had genuine faith towards his dream of becoming Hokage, never failing in giving him support. She was the world to him. So how can someone even dare to claim that it was just "one person"? Sure, Obito could have returned to the village, but by witnessing the death of Rin at the hands of the one friend who promised to protect her (regardless of the circumstances) with their master Minato assigned to some other mission while a similar tragedy occurred, stripped Obito of his purpose much like Madara was stripped of his, which in Obito's case was protecting his comrades no matter what. And knowing well the feeling, Madara knew how to manipulate him to set Obito on a similar path of self-imposed isolation, since he described the world was a miserable place unworthy of salvation to the kid, something he felt tangible prove of that in one single, hope shattering moment.
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